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		<title>By: Ð—Ð°Ð¿Ð¸ÑÐºÐ¸ Ð¡Ð°Ð¼Ð°Ð½Ð° &#187; Spam ÐÐµÐ¿Ð¾Ð±ÐµÐ´Ð¸Ð¼?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ð—Ð°Ð¿Ð¸ÑÐºÐ¸ Ð¡Ð°Ð¼Ð°Ð½Ð° &#187; Spam ÐÐµÐ¿Ð¾Ð±ÐµÐ´Ð¸Ð¼?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 4 Billion Pages indexed in under 3 Weeks SEO Black Hat: SEO Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>4 Billion Pages indexed in under 3 Weeks SEO Black Hat: SEO Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s been said before, but clearly there is no money in black hat SEO and search engine spamming. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. C.</title>
		<link>http://seoblackhat.com/2005/10/23/black-hat-seo-and-seach-engine-spamming-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the &quot;either or&quot; examples here. I have black hat sites ove 2 years old that are still making me money. There are other options than &quot;whitehat sites that last forever or blackhat sites that last a month&quot;. I prefer my blackhat sites that last forever(as if thats guaranteed with either hat, lol), but to each his own I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the &#8220;either or&#8221; examples here. I have black hat sites ove 2 years old that are still making me money. There are other options than &#8220;whitehat sites that last forever or blackhat sites that last a month&#8221;. I prefer my blackhat sites that last forever(as if thats guaranteed with either hat, lol), but to each his own I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Ozh</title>
		<link>http://seoblackhat.com/2005/10/23/black-hat-seo-and-seach-engine-spamming-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-467</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definately wrong. In serp for &quot;online poker&quot;, the Wikipedia page on the topic ranks from 2 to 4 depending on Google server. And this is the result of &lt;a href=&quot;http://frenchfragfactory.net/ozh/archives/2005/02/19/bloggers-of-the-world-unite/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;google bombing&lt;/a&gt; (hence spamming links)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definately wrong. In serp for &#8220;online poker&#8221;, the Wikipedia page on the topic ranks from 2 to 4 depending on Google server. And this is the result of <a href="http://frenchfragfactory.net/ozh/archives/2005/02/19/bloggers-of-the-world-unite/" rel="nofollow">google bombing</a> (hence spamming links)</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://seoblackhat.com/2005/10/23/black-hat-seo-and-seach-engine-spamming-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess this is all fake money in my pocket then. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this is all fake money in my pocket then. <img src='http://seoblackhat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bock</title>
		<link>http://seoblackhat.com/2005/10/23/black-hat-seo-and-seach-engine-spamming-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Bock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Income?  Here ya go...Bock Bock.  Just one account for a few months...



Date	Description	Debit(-)	Credit(+)	Curr.	Status  
 	Jun 27 17:21	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 27 17:21	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 27 16:35	REMOVED	-     	$3,600.00 	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 19 17:49	Debit Card FSV 	$248.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 19 17:49	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 18 14:16	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 18 14:16	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 17 13:12	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 17 13:12	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 17 11:46	REMOVED	-     	$2,250.00 	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 08 17:11	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 08 17:11	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 07 16:05	EFT-0848 	$3,000.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 07 16:04	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 07 16:04	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Jun 07 16:01	REMOVED	-     	$5,000.00 	USD	Accepted 
 	May 15 20:47	Debit Card FSV 	$143.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	May 15 20:47	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	May 11 23:47	REMOVED	-     	$145.00 	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 29 20:45	Debit Card FSV 	$748.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 29 20:45	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 29 12:25	Debit Card FSV 	$748.00 	-     	USD	Declined 
 	Apr 29 12:25	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Declined 
 	Apr 28 17:17	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 28 17:17	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 28 16:32	REMOVED	-     	$1,750.00 	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 14 10:51	Debit Card FSV 	$181.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 14 10:51	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 12 21:20	REMOVED	-     	$183.00 	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 12 16:04	Debit Card FSV 	$68.31 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 12 16:04	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 12 11:58	REMOVED	-     	$70.31 	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 12 11:34	Debit Card FSV 	$501.18 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 12 11:34	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Apr 12 10:14	REMOVED	-     	$494.03 	USD	Accepted 
 	Mar 16 12:18	Debit Card FSV 	$7.15 	-     	USD	Declined 
 	Mar 16 12:18	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Declined 
 	Mar 11 09:27	REMOVED 	-     	$9.15 	USD	Accepted 
 	Mar 11 09:24	Debit Card FSV 	$204.26 	-     	USD	Accepted 
 	Mar 11 09:24	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Income?  Here ya go&#8230;Bock Bock.  Just one account for a few months&#8230;</p>
<p>Date	Description	Debit(-)	Credit(+)	Curr.	Status<br />
 	Jun 27 17:21	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 27 17:21	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 27 16:35	REMOVED	-     	$3,600.00 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 19 17:49	Debit Card FSV 	$248.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 19 17:49	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 18 14:16	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 18 14:16	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 17 13:12	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 17 13:12	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 17 11:46	REMOVED	-     	$2,250.00 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 08 17:11	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 08 17:11	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 07 16:05	EFT-0848 	$3,000.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 07 16:04	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 07 16:04	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Jun 07 16:01	REMOVED	-     	$5,000.00 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	May 15 20:47	Debit Card FSV 	$143.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	May 15 20:47	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	May 11 23:47	REMOVED	-     	$145.00 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 29 20:45	Debit Card FSV 	$748.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 29 20:45	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 29 12:25	Debit Card FSV 	$748.00 	-     	USD	Declined<br />
 	Apr 29 12:25	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Declined<br />
 	Apr 28 17:17	Debit Card FSV 	$998.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 28 17:17	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 28 16:32	REMOVED	-     	$1,750.00 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 14 10:51	Debit Card FSV 	$181.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 14 10:51	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 12 21:20	REMOVED	-     	$183.00 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 12 16:04	Debit Card FSV 	$68.31 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 12 16:04	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 12 11:58	REMOVED	-     	$70.31 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 12 11:34	Debit Card FSV 	$501.18 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 12 11:34	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Apr 12 10:14	REMOVED	-     	$494.03 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Mar 16 12:18	Debit Card FSV 	$7.15 	-     	USD	Declined<br />
 	Mar 16 12:18	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Declined<br />
 	Mar 11 09:27	REMOVED 	-     	$9.15 	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Mar 11 09:24	Debit Card FSV 	$204.26 	-     	USD	Accepted<br />
 	Mar 11 09:24	Fee 	$2.00 	-     	USD	Accepted</p>
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		<title>By: CountZero</title>
		<link>http://seoblackhat.com/2005/10/23/black-hat-seo-and-seach-engine-spamming-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>CountZero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;how much you make from the dark side as oppose to how much you would be making if you flew straight&lt;/em&gt;

Now that I have switched to whitehat I am definitely making more. Damn, splogging got all my sites banned.

Ok, I have to pay to get articles/contet written now but I spend some time each day writing, but so what. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadwatch.org/node/4364&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I now feel safe and my sites will be in Google forever, always making me money.&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;m also spending a lot of time reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackhat-seo.com/2005/my-new-reply-to-stupid-e-mails/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link exchange emails&lt;/a&gt;, which takes more time than link spamming with some custom software. However, now I feel secure that I won&#039;t get banned and eventually rank for my keywords.

There&#039;s one thing that made me change my mind. The feeling of security that in 5 years, my sites will be making much more money, while the blackhat sites will be banned. It surely beats making 1000 blackhat sites that will only make me $500 per day for a couple months. After all when they get banned I have to make more and more to keep up. And we all know how difficult that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>how much you make from the dark side as oppose to how much you would be making if you flew straight</em></p>
<p>Now that I have switched to whitehat I am definitely making more. Damn, splogging got all my sites banned.</p>
<p>Ok, I have to pay to get articles/contet written now but I spend some time each day writing, but so what. <a href="http://www.threadwatch.org/node/4364" rel="nofollow">I now feel safe and my sites will be in Google forever, always making me money.</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m also spending a lot of time reading <a href="http://www.blackhat-seo.com/2005/my-new-reply-to-stupid-e-mails/" rel="nofollow">link exchange emails</a>, which takes more time than link spamming with some custom software. However, now I feel secure that I won&#8217;t get banned and eventually rank for my keywords.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one thing that made me change my mind. The feeling of security that in 5 years, my sites will be making much more money, while the blackhat sites will be banned. It surely beats making 1000 blackhat sites that will only make me $500 per day for a couple months. After all when they get banned I have to make more and more to keep up. And we all know how difficult that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocaine</title>
		<link>http://seoblackhat.com/2005/10/23/black-hat-seo-and-seach-engine-spamming-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey im not a black hat&quot;

If you are not a black hat, you can&#039;t understand &quot;black hat seoing&quot;.
It&#039;s not enough to read some paper to be considered a BH.
You have to work, test, invest, study, work, test, invest, study...

The way to attack search engine has changed from few years ago, at our day is really hard to be a winner, to reach the first position with auto generated sites, but is still possible and always will be.

If you want, you can.

But please remember that with your bullshit you are offending the real black hat community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey im not a black hat&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are not a black hat, you can&#8217;t understand &#8220;black hat seoing&#8221;.<br />
It&#8217;s not enough to read some paper to be considered a BH.<br />
You have to work, test, invest, study, work, test, invest, study&#8230;</p>
<p>The way to attack search engine has changed from few years ago, at our day is really hard to be a winner, to reach the first position with auto generated sites, but is still possible and always will be.</p>
<p>If you want, you can.</p>
<p>But please remember that with your bullshit you are offending the real black hat community.</p>
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		<title>By: CodeCaine Cypher</title>
		<link>http://seoblackhat.com/2005/10/23/black-hat-seo-and-seach-engine-spamming-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>CodeCaine Cypher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey im not a black hat ( then again i dont think any of you are with the exception of the owner of this site) but since you all say im full of it could you indulge me in how much you make from the dark side as oppose to how much you would be making if you flew straight. Thats assuming all of you who say I am wrong are actually making money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey im not a black hat ( then again i dont think any of you are with the exception of the owner of this site) but since you all say im full of it could you indulge me in how much you make from the dark side as oppose to how much you would be making if you flew straight. Thats assuming all of you who say I am wrong are actually making money.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePost</title>
		<link>http://seoblackhat.com/2005/10/23/black-hat-seo-and-seach-engine-spamming-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>ThePost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s right, and wrong.

It depends on how you work BH: Research, or a quick fast buck... which can be hit or miss.

Research

BH can provide a fast way to find new markets. It can also be a useful means of discovering what &quot;triggers&quot; a particular market segment better responds to.

A Quick Buck

Read any grey or BH forum and you&#039;ll read of people making varying amounts of money - From 0.20cents to 10&#039;s of 1000&#039;s.

You&#039;ll also read from the odd brave soul that they&#039;ve made nothing - Which could also mean, don&#039;t forget, that they made $500/mth but it cost them more than that to make, whether that be in terms of buying resources or simply time-spent... Many don&#039;t even think of it like that until the bills need paying. 

We certainly don&#039;t hear from everyone making nothing, as is the opposite case for those that make extreme amounts. Nonetheless, it must be accepted that there are many &quot;hidden&quot; loss-makers out there... many more than those actually make a living.

Mainstream BH is a live-fast, die-fast enterprise with diminishing returns - In order to stay at an attained level, one has to be more productive; Find new hosts, buy new domains, find new content, more KW&#039;s, new templates, new links, seperate class c&#039;s, avoid bad neighbourhoods, dodge the latest algo... the list goes on... 

The heat is continually on to build more tools to automate the process because the current algo&#039;s mean you need to increasingly scale bigger and quicker (which in itself, increasingly singles you out). Those same tools have a shorter working life, particularly those that become popular and/or are dished out freely by egocentrically-centred script-kiddies (thanks to you all BTW ;) )

It seems ironic to me, that what most - if not all - BH&#039;ers constantly ask for from software, are tweaks that make the output as whitehat as possible. And that&#039;s where we now see software edging towards.

In the meantime, I&#039;m of the view that BH is a useful research tool to find niches to build a WH presence - I can sell a business that is difficult to knock from the SERP&#039;s, A&#039;la CVS, but would struggle to sell a mainstream BH business for anything meaningful (or without practicing deception).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s right, and wrong.</p>
<p>It depends on how you work BH: Research, or a quick fast buck&#8230; which can be hit or miss.</p>
<p>Research</p>
<p>BH can provide a fast way to find new markets. It can also be a useful means of discovering what &#8220;triggers&#8221; a particular market segment better responds to.</p>
<p>A Quick Buck</p>
<p>Read any grey or BH forum and you&#8217;ll read of people making varying amounts of money &#8211; From 0.20cents to 10&#8217;s of 1000&#8217;s.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll also read from the odd brave soul that they&#8217;ve made nothing &#8211; Which could also mean, don&#8217;t forget, that they made $500/mth but it cost them more than that to make, whether that be in terms of buying resources or simply time-spent&#8230; Many don&#8217;t even think of it like that until the bills need paying. </p>
<p>We certainly don&#8217;t hear from everyone making nothing, as is the opposite case for those that make extreme amounts. Nonetheless, it must be accepted that there are many &#8220;hidden&#8221; loss-makers out there&#8230; many more than those actually make a living.</p>
<p>Mainstream BH is a live-fast, die-fast enterprise with diminishing returns &#8211; In order to stay at an attained level, one has to be more productive; Find new hosts, buy new domains, find new content, more KW&#8217;s, new templates, new links, seperate class c&#8217;s, avoid bad neighbourhoods, dodge the latest algo&#8230; the list goes on&#8230; </p>
<p>The heat is continually on to build more tools to automate the process because the current algo&#8217;s mean you need to increasingly scale bigger and quicker (which in itself, increasingly singles you out). Those same tools have a shorter working life, particularly those that become popular and/or are dished out freely by egocentrically-centred script-kiddies (thanks to you all BTW <img src='http://seoblackhat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>It seems ironic to me, that what most &#8211; if not all &#8211; BH&#8217;ers constantly ask for from software, are tweaks that make the output as whitehat as possible. And that&#8217;s where we now see software edging towards.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I&#8217;m of the view that BH is a useful research tool to find niches to build a WH presence &#8211; I can sell a business that is difficult to knock from the SERP&#8217;s, A&#8217;la CVS, but would struggle to sell a mainstream BH business for anything meaningful (or without practicing deception).</p>
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