Comments on: Netconcepts: Search Keyphrases Refferal Spam http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/ Tired of useless Top 10 Lists for ranking in Google? Looking for effective and insightful info? SEO Black Hat Blog offers articles on Blackhat SEO, Linkbait & Link Spamming. And if you need to escape White Hat SEO Whiners, check out he Private Black Hat Search Engine Optimization Forum. Fri, 04 Feb 2011 05:07:23 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Netconcepts http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2769 Netconcepts Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:34:11 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2769 I was responsible for the false hits against this site (and specifically the rss feeds). I was using a firefox extension call RefControl, it allows you to override the referrer firefox uses when making http requests. I was testing some inbound link tracking, and had the RefControl extension overriding the referrer header on all requests. I left this on over the weekend - firefoxes rss reader kept hitting the rss file and QuadZilla’s logs filled with this referral spam. I guess next time rather than using my companies name when I’m testing I should use something more sinister ;) Or maybe I should be careful which sites I (accidently) referrer spam. I was responsible for the false hits against this site (and specifically the rss feeds). I was using a firefox extension call RefControl, it allows you to override the referrer firefox uses when making http requests.

I was testing some inbound link tracking, and had the RefControl extension overriding the referrer header on all requests. I left this on over the weekend – firefoxes rss reader kept hitting the rss file and QuadZilla’s logs filled with this referral spam.

I guess next time rather than using my companies name when I’m testing I should use something more sinister ;) Or maybe I should be careful which sites I (accidently) referrer spam.

]]> By: lphaworm http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2746 lphaworm Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:07:24 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2746 I reckon this is made to increase keyword research popularity on service like wordtracker... clean it up and filter your keywords list is a must.. I reckon this is made to increase keyword research popularity on service like wordtracker… clean it up and filter your keywords list is a must..

]]> By: QuadsZilla http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2702 QuadsZilla Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:51:09 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2702 It seems from my testing that some of these types of links pass love and some do not. If you have a few hundred of them, they definately count for something - but it's hard to say which ones. I'm 99% sure that Google result pages pass no love in Google. They probably don't count in MSN or Yahoo either, that was just an example. But take, for example, technorati. I think think that a technorati page indexed in Yahoo passes some love in Yahoo. . . but I'm not 100% sure. But if you have a few thousand such links on similar sites, they will certainly count for something. It seems from my testing that some of these types of links pass love and some do not. If you have a few hundred of them, they definately count for something – but it’s hard to say which ones. I’m 99% sure that Google result pages pass no love in Google. They probably don’t count in MSN or Yahoo either, that was just an example.

But take, for example, technorati. I think think that a technorati page indexed in Yahoo passes some love in Yahoo. . . but I’m not 100% sure. But if you have a few thousand such links on similar sites, they will certainly count for something.

]]> By: Gotan Raider http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2701 Gotan Raider Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:13:11 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2701 By inflating PR aren't you indirectly improving your serps? You need link popularity if you want to rank for anything, although the degree to which PR is influential is decreasingly important especially in G. Anyways this triggered a question in my mind relating to this post ( http://seoblackhat.com/2005/09/26/inbound-link-authority-sites-exploit/ ) on link dumping where you mention briefly that you can get high authority link from Rojo and Google. But it's blogsearch.google , not regular google search. Reading that I have to assume that you are saying that that results page in google blog search counts as a link to your blog from a highly trusted PR 8 page. If that's the case, then all I need to do is rank for some nonsense term without competition and bam, I'll have a link back to my blog. In fact the most nonsense the term is the more I'll own all the space in that list and get all the links back to me. But that doesn't seem to work in google search because the result pages don't carry PR love. Or do they? By inflating PR aren’t you indirectly improving your serps? You need link popularity if you want to rank for anything, although the degree to which PR is influential is decreasingly important especially in G.

Anyways this triggered a question in my mind relating to this post ( http://seoblackhat.com/2005/09/26/inbound-link-authority-sites-exploit/ ) on link dumping where you mention briefly that you can get high authority link from Rojo and Google. But it’s blogsearch.google , not regular google search. Reading that I have to assume that you are saying that that results page in google blog search counts as a link to your blog from a highly trusted PR 8 page. If that’s the case, then all I need to do is rank for some nonsense term without competition and bam, I’ll have a link back to my blog. In fact the most nonsense the term is the more I’ll own all the space in that list and get all the links back to me.

But that doesn’t seem to work in google search because the result pages don’t carry PR love. Or do they?

]]> By: QuadsZilla http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2699 QuadsZilla Fri, 02 Jun 2006 02:30:40 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2699 The purpose of spamming or any SEO effort should not be to inflate page rank, but to improve SERPs or drive traffic. This method would not improve SERPs, but might drive traffic from referral log diggers. Normal Referral spamming could improve SERPs especially in Yahoo and MSN. The purpose of spamming or any SEO effort should not be to inflate page rank, but to improve SERPs or drive traffic. This method would not improve SERPs, but might drive traffic from referral log diggers.

Normal Referral spamming could improve SERPs especially in Yahoo and MSN.

]]> By: Gotan Raider http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2698 Gotan Raider Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:55:47 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2698 Can you confirm if the objective was to inflate the google results PR? I dont get this: for example: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&q=seoblackhat&btnG=Search+Blogs is a PR8 but http://www.google.com/search?q=seoblackhat&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official carries no PR at all. I made this test with several combinations. Blogsearch seems to be do the job but traditional google search doesn't. Am I right? And if I am, then what's the purpose of this ref spam? Can you confirm if the objective was to inflate the google results PR?

I dont get this: for example: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&q=seoblackhat&btnG=Search+Blogs is a PR8 but http://www.google.com/search?q=seoblackhat&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official carries no PR at all. I made this test with several combinations. Blogsearch seems to be do the job but traditional google search doesn’t.

Am I right? And if I am, then what’s the purpose of this ref spam?

]]> By: QuadsZilla http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2697 QuadsZilla Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:08:16 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2697 Yea, it´s from them but it was an accident. Someone from the company has offered to explain. Yea, it´s from them but it was an accident. Someone from the company has offered to explain.

]]> By: Gotan Raider http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2696 Gotan Raider Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:00:50 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2696 Is the objective of this spam to inflate the PR of this page: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=omittedcrap:en&q=netconcepts ? Then indirectly the love will pass to the sites dominating that page? If that's the case there's no way to know whether the spam came from netconcepts.com or .co.za right? I would be pissing off my pants if I could confirm something about all this... but I probably should stfu ;-o Is the objective of this spam to inflate the PR of this page: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=omittedcrap:en&q=netconcepts ?

Then indirectly the love will pass to the sites dominating that page?

If that’s the case there’s no way to know whether the spam came from netconcepts.com or .co.za right?

I would be pissing off my pants if I could confirm something about all this… but I probably should stfu ;-o

]]> By: Muskblog » Blog Archive » May’s Top Search Engine Referrers http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2695 Muskblog » Blog Archive » May’s Top Search Engine Referrers Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:16:05 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2695 [...] Another blog I follow regularly SEO Blackhat put up its own list of popular referrals for the month of May. He also documented a new type of spam going around. I haven’t had many problems with comment spam, either my blog is too small to bother about or the way I set things up has remained secure against spam for the most part. [...] [...] Another blog I follow regularly SEO Blackhat put up its own list of popular referrals for the month of May. He also documented a new type of spam going around. I haven’t had many problems with comment spam, either my blog is too small to bother about or the way I set things up has remained secure against spam for the most part. [...]

]]> By: QuadsZilla http://seoblackhat.com/2006/05/30/netconcepts-search-keyphrases-refferal-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-2685 QuadsZilla Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:25:29 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/?p=310#comment-2685 Actually, this method is usless unless you are spamming millions of requests. But that's not very difficult to do with a script. Also, with toplists they don't have to check anything, a link to your site is automatically put on their site. Actually, this method is usless unless you are spamming millions of requests. But that’s not very difficult to do with a script. Also, with toplists they don’t have to check anything, a link to your site is automatically put on their site.

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