Comments on: Bounce Rate Questions http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/ Tired of useless Top 10 Lists for ranking in Google? Looking for effective and insightful info? SEO Black Hat Blog offers articles on Blackhat SEO, Linkbait & Link Spamming. And if you need to escape White Hat SEO Whiners, check out he Private Black Hat Search Engine Optimization Forum. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:26:23 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ein Ping kommt selten allein | Blogger World http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9236 Ein Ping kommt selten allein | Blogger World Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:16:29 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9236 [...] Peter vom Blogpingr teilte unsere Meinung nicht. Er antwortete im Artikel , das einige seiner User wesentlich mehr Pings absetzen wie Andreas. Er verwies als möglichen Grund auf einen Artikel des SeoBlackHat Blogs , der sich mit der sogenannten Bounce Rate Frage beschäftigt. [...] [...] Peter vom Blogpingr teilte unsere Meinung nicht. Er antwortete im Artikel , das einige seiner User wesentlich mehr Pings absetzen wie Andreas. Er verwies als möglichen Grund auf einen Artikel des SeoBlackHat Blogs , der sich mit der sogenannten Bounce Rate Frage beschäftigt. [...]

]]> By: Not a “Bounce” . . . but a SCASI http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9174 Not a “Bounce” . . . but a SCASI Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:47:51 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9174 [...] After my last 2 posts on bounce rate, Many more questions have been popping up about the bounce effect. [...] [...] After my last 2 posts on bounce rate, Many more questions have been popping up about the bounce effect. [...]

]]> By: eagerterrier http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9158 eagerterrier Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:32:23 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9158 Surely what this means is that when google visitors drop off, bounce rate is reduced? Hence, people who have bookmarked your site, or who come from referring sites are more likely to stick around than google tarts. I don't think there's anything sinister here, as the bounce rate goes down, not up... Surely what this means is that when google visitors drop off, bounce rate is reduced?

Hence, people who have bookmarked your site, or who come from referring sites are more likely to stick around than google tarts.

I don’t think there’s anything sinister here, as the bounce rate goes down, not up…

]]> By: LebossTom http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9155 LebossTom Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:35:16 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9155 @QuadsZilla : ok, that's sounds more realistic cause bounce rate isn't a good metric at all to figure out user experience. sorry for my terrible english :) @QuadsZilla : ok, that’s sounds more realistic cause bounce rate isn’t a good metric at all to figure out user experience.

sorry for my terrible english :)

]]> By: Steward http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9146 Steward Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:43:52 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9146 QuadsZilla, thank you! This is for a search engine the most secure and easiest way to count bounce rates. It can be so simple indeed. :) QuadsZilla, thank you! This is for a search engine the most secure and easiest way to count bounce rates. It can be so simple indeed. :)

]]> By: QuadsZilla http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9145 QuadsZilla Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:10:51 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9145 I will add that it may not be bounce rate per se, but something that is a close corollary to bounce rates. So, for example, if someone clicks another SERP on the same search 30 secs to 2 mins after clicking the initial site, or any other trackable metric that indicates that the surfer did not spend much time on your site and is looking elsewhere for an "answer". I will add that it may not be bounce rate per se, but something that is a close corollary to bounce rates. So, for example, if someone clicks another SERP on the same search 30 secs to 2 mins after clicking the initial site, or any other trackable metric that indicates that the surfer did not spend much time on your site and is looking elsewhere for an “answer”.

]]> By: Contempt http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9144 Contempt Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:34:09 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9144 Very good Q&A as the follow up. I've suspected this myself for a while, but this puts the icing on the cake. Keep up the good work man. Very good Q&A as the follow up. I’ve suspected this myself for a while, but this puts the icing on the cake. Keep up the good work man.

]]> By: Steward http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9143 Steward Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:35:08 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9143 Do you know, what exactly the bouncerate is? I'm not sure and give some examples: - visitor uses the back-button (imo that's a clear bounce) - visitor clicks a link, target page opens in the same browser window (clear bounce) - link opens in a new tab/ window - did the visitor leave the first page or not? - visitor clicks on an ad and let's say, it is from adsense. Is this a bounce? Do you know, what exactly the bouncerate is? I’m not sure and give some examples:

- visitor uses the back-button (imo that’s a clear bounce)
- visitor clicks a link, target page opens in the same browser window (clear bounce)
- link opens in a new tab/ window – did the visitor leave the first page or not?
- visitor clicks on an ad and let’s say, it is from adsense. Is this a bounce?

]]> By: LebossTom http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9137 LebossTom Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:27:17 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9137 once again, i disagree... visitors from google who always pick #1 result have an higher bounce rate then visitor who take time to read SERPs and pick number #3 or #4... What if in this case you get an temporary ranking penalty and you're mixing causes & consequences... once again, i disagree…

visitors from google who always pick #1 result have an higher bounce rate then visitor who take time to read SERPs and pick number #3 or #4…

What if in this case you get an temporary ranking penalty and you’re mixing causes & consequences…

]]> By: veke http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-9135 veke Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:20:34 +0000 http://seoblackhat.com/2008/11/21/bounce-rate-questions/#comment-9135 Hi, this is amazing.. I can not understand why google is going to do this... I think in this way: - A site get a low bounce rate for a particular keyword |_ Then probably that site is a good resource for that kw |_ If i would be google i will give that result an higher ranking. My ideas are the opposite of what google is doing... BUT Another way to interpret these data could be the following one: Suppose that you 30.000 Unique_visitor_per_day WebSite is taking a lot of time for loading and usually ( when you got 30 000 visitors every day ) it would be annoying to wait.. (personally if i'm not so desperate i will not wait more than 4 second on a web site for loading ) .. For every Day you get more than 30 000 visitors which a 20% are lazy enough for leaving the page if it is loading slowly. Now, Suppose that you got google-kicked about 3 position down for the most relevant kw .. You are going to get lower visitor from google... Now lets suppose that the lower traffic you are getting is leaving your website breathe a bit And consequently your webpage is loading much more faster... The 20% lazy-visitors are not leaving your website anymore... ( So you are getting a Lower Bounce rate) .. BTW another point is: Your graph is not proving anything.. You are proving that your website has a lower bounce rate when it gets less traffic ... It would be a step by step process: 1- You lower the bounce rate 2- You get more/less traffic from google The process '1' should be done before the '2' one. If this comment was idiot tell me it.. Hi, this is amazing.. I can not understand why google is going to do this…

I think in this way:

- A site get a low bounce rate for a particular keyword
|_ Then probably that site is a good resource for that kw
|_ If i would be google i will give that result an higher ranking.

My ideas are the opposite of what google is doing…
BUT

Another way to interpret these data could be the following one:

Suppose that you 30.000 Unique_visitor_per_day WebSite is taking a lot of time for loading and usually ( when you got 30 000 visitors every day ) it would be annoying to wait.. (personally if i’m not so desperate i will not wait more than 4 second on a web site for loading ) ..

For every Day you get more than 30 000 visitors which a 20% are lazy enough for leaving the page if it is loading slowly.

Now, Suppose that you got google-kicked about 3 position down for the most relevant kw .. You are going to get lower visitor from google…

Now lets suppose that the lower traffic you are getting is leaving your website breathe a bit And consequently your webpage is loading much more faster…

The 20% lazy-visitors are not leaving your website anymore… ( So you are getting a Lower Bounce rate)

.. BTW another point is:
Your graph is not proving anything.. You are proving that your website has a lower bounce rate when it gets less traffic … It would be a step by step process:
1- You lower the bounce rate
2- You get more/less traffic from google

The process ‘1′ should be done before the ‘2′ one.

If this comment was idiot tell me it..

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